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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5411 From: tmday7 Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Absolute or Incremental
Tom,
Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
Or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Troy
Group: DynoMotion Message: 5412 From: TK Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Incremental with differential outputs. 

TK

On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@...> wrote:

 

Tom,
Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
Or is there more to it than that?

Thanks,
Troy

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5413 From: tmday7 Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Ok, thanks Tom. Do you know what is a Avago Compatible Differential?

Troy

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@...> wrote:
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> Incremental with differential outputs.
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> TK
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> On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@...> wrote:
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> > Tom,
> > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
> > Or is there more to it than that?
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> > Thanks,
> > Troy
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5414 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
I think that may be the pinout and connector type, but I'm not sure.
 
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5415 From: Michael Rosenfield Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Yes, that is what it is. Avago used to be HP. You can find the pinouts on the USDigital website, too. They make encoders and line drivers/receivers, and they are available Avago compatible.
Michael Rosenfield
 
Group: DynoMotion Message: 5416 From: tmday7 Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
So it still works as any other Differential, its just Avago (HP) made a type of "proprietary" pinout connection?

Thanks,
Troy

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rosenfield <mrosenfield@...> wrote:
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> Yes, that is what it is. Avago used to be HP. You can find the pinouts on the USDigital website, too. They make encoders and line drivers/receivers, and they are available Avago compatible.Michael Rosenfield
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> From: tk@...
> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:57:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> I think that may be the pinout and connector type, but I'm not sure.
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> From: tmday7 <brotroy7@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> Ok, thanks Tom. Do you know what is a Avago Compatible Differential?
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> Troy
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> --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
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> > Incremental with differential outputs.
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> > TK
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> > On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@> wrote:
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> > > Tom,
> > > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
> > > Or is there more to it than that?
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> > > Thanks,
> > > Troy
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5417 From: Michael Rosenfield Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
That is correct. See http://usdigital.com/products/cables-connectors/cables/10-pin/CA-FC10L-SH-NC
I guess I got it backwards - Avago is now Agilent, which used to be HP.
Michael
 
Group: DynoMotion Message: 5418 From: tmday7 Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Ok. Thanks Michael.

Tom,
Is the JP5 - GPIO #1 / LV Differential Connector on the KFLOP board the only place to wire in a differential encoder?

Thanks,
Troy

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Michael
<mrosenfield@...> wrote:
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> That is correct. See http://usdigital.com/products/cables-connectors/cables/10-pin/CA-FC10L-SH-NCI guess I got it backwards - Avago is now Agilent, which used to be HP.
Michael
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
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> So it still works as any other Differential, its just Avago (HP) made a type of "proprietary" pinout connection?
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> Thanks,
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> Troy
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> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rosenfield <mrosenfield@> wrote:
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> > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@> wrote:
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> > > > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
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> > > > Thanks,
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5419 From: tmday7 Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Tom,
Is the JP5 - GPIO #1 / LV Differential Connector on the KFLOP board the only place to wire in a differential encoder?
Or can any Gen Purpose LVTTL I/O (5V Tolerant)pin be used for differential encoder channels?

Thanks,
Troy

> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> <mrosenfield@> wrote:
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> >
> > That is correct. See http://usdigital.com/products/cables-connectors/cables/10-pin/CA-FC10L-SH-NCI guess I got it backwards - Avago is now Agilent, which used to be HP.
> Michael
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
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> > So it still works as any other Differential, its just Avago (HP) made a type of "proprietary" pinout connection?
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> > Thanks,
> >
> > Troy
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> > --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rosenfield <mrosenfield@> wrote:
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> > > Yes, that is what it is. Avago used to be HP. You can find the pinouts on the USDigital website, too. They make encoders and line drivers/receivers, and they are available Avago compatible.Michael Rosenfield
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> > > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
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> > > From: tk@
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> > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:57:26 -0700
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> > > Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:51 AM
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> > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
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> > > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@> wrote:
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> > > > > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5420 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 7/3/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Hi Troy,
 
No KFLOP itself does not have any differential encoder inputs (LV (low voltage) differential is something completely different).  Only single ended encoder inputs are available on KFLOP.  I recommended getting differential encoders because differential encoders can be connected to either single ended inputs or differential inputs.  For single ended inputs just connect one of the signals (either + or -) and leave the other unconnected.  Because encoder signals are handled in hardware they have dedicated pins.  The exception to this is an MPG encoder.  Those are often slow enough that they can be handled in software so can be connected to any KFLOP inputs.  See also
 
 
 
Regards
TK
 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5421 From: tmday7 Date: 7/4/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Hmm,ok. So if i have a differential encoder that has following pins, this is how i would use wires with KFLOP?

Pin1:Ground (Both pins 1&2 to a digital ground at header JP7)
Pin2:Ground
Pin3:Index- (Leave off or to an input?)
Pin4:Index+ (Leave off or to an input?)
Pin5:A- channel (Leave off?)
Pin6:A+ channel (To Input on header JP7)
Pin7:+5V Power (Both pins 7&8 to +5V pin on JP7)
Pin8:+5V Power
Pin9:B- channel (Leave Off?)
Pin10:B+ channel (To Input on header JP7)

Thanks again,
Troy

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes wrote:
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> Hi Troy,
>  
> No KFLOP itself does not have any differential encoder inputs (LV (low voltage) differential is something completely different).  Only single ended encoder inputs are available on KFLOP.  I recommended getting differential encoders because differential encoders can be connected to either single ended inputs or differential inputs.  For single ended inputs just connect one of the signals (either + or -) and leave the other unconnected.  Because encoder signals are handled in hardware they have dedicated pins.  The exception to this is an MPG encoder.  Those are often slow enough that they can be handled in software so can be connected to any KFLOP inputs.  See also
>  
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DynoMotion/message/5345
>  
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DynoMotion/message/5086
>  
> Regards
> TK
>  
>
> From: tmday7
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:23 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
>
>
>  
> Tom,
> Is the JP5 - GPIO #1 / LV Differential Connector on the KFLOP board the only place to wire in a differential encoder?
> Or can any Gen Purpose LVTTL I/O (5V Tolerant)pin be used for differential encoder channels?
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
> > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > <mrosenfield@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > That is correct. See http://usdigital.com/products/cables-connectors/cables/10-pin/CA-FC10L-SH-NCI guess I got it backwards - Avago is now Agilent, which used to be HP.
> > Michael
> > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> >
> > > So it still works as any other Differential, its just Avago (HP) made a type of "proprietary" pinout connection?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Troy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Rosenfield <mrosenfield@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Yes, that is what it is. Avago used to be HP. You can find the pinouts on the USDigital website, too. They make encoders and line drivers/receivers, and they are available Avago compatible.Michael Rosenfield
> > >
> > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > > From: tk@
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:57:26 -0700
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
> > >
> > > >
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> > > > I think that may be the pinout and connector type, but I'm not sure.
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> > > > From: tmday7 <brotroy7@>
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> > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
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> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:51 AM
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> > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> > > > Ok, thanks Tom. Do you know what is a Avago Compatible Differential?
> > >
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> > > > Troy
> > >
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> > > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
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> > > > > Incremental with differential outputs.
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> > > > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@> wrote:
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> > > > > > Tom,
> > >
> > > > > > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
> > >
> > > > > > Or is there more to it than that?
> > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Thanks,
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> > > > > > Troy
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5425 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 7/4/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Hi Troy,
 
That is all correct.  The A+ and B+ signals would be connected to IO0 and IO1 signals (Pins 7 and 8 on JP7) for encoder input channel 0.
 
You might also consider adding termination resistors of ~120 ohms between each signal (A+ and B+) to ground.   This will reduce signal ringing and noise that might be picked up on long cables.  Also consider using shielded cables where the shield is connected to KFLOP DC Ground near the KFLOP end of the cable.
 
The Index signals are not required to be connected.  An Index signal can be useful in improving the accuracy of homing.  The Home routine can be written to move until a switch is connected and then move until the Index pulse is detected.  Because this is all done in a User C Program (software) any spare input can be used.
 
HTH
TK 

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5426 From: tmday7 Date: 7/4/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
:) Nice, I got one right for a change.

Could the index be used without a switch? Reason is, this encoder would be on a rotary 4th axis, and it would be nice if there was a way to reference the axis, other than lineing up 2 marks.

Thanks again Tom,
Troy

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Troy,
>  
> That is all correct.  The A+ and B+ signals would be connected to IO0 and IO1 signals (Pins 7 and 8 on JP7) for encoder input channel 0.
>  
> You might also consider adding termination resistors of ~120 ohms between each signal (A+ and B+) to ground.   This will reduce signal ringing and noise that might be picked up on long cables.  Also consider using shielded cables where the shield is connected to KFLOP DC Ground near the KFLOP end of the cable.
>  
> The Index signals are not required to be connected.  An Index signal can be useful in improving the accuracy of homing.  The Home routine can be written to move until a switch is connected and then move until the Index pulse is detected.  Because this is all done in a User C Program (software) any spare input can be used.
>  
> HTH
> TK 
>
> From: tmday7 <brotroy7@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:46 AM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
>
>
>  
> Hmm,ok. So if i have a differential encoder that has following pins, this is how i would use wires with KFLOP?
>
> Pin1:Ground (Both pins 1&2 to a digital ground at header JP7)
> Pin2:Ground
> Pin3:Index- (Leave off or to an input?)
> Pin4:Index+ (Leave off or to an input?)
> Pin5:A- channel (Leave off?)
> Pin6:A+ channel (To Input on header JP7)
> Pin7:+5V Power (Both pins 7&8 to +5V pin on JP7)
> Pin8:+5V Power
> Pin9:B- channel (Leave Off?)
> Pin10:B+ channel (To Input on header JP7)
>
> Thanks again,
> Troy
>
> --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes wrote:
> >
> > Hi Troy,
> >  
> > No KFLOP itself does not have any differential encoder inputs (LV (low voltage) differential is something completely different).  Only single ended encoder inputs are available on KFLOP.  I recommended getting differential encoders because differential encoders can be connected to either single ended inputs or differential inputs.  For single ended inputs just connect one of the signals (either + or -) and leave the other unconnected.  Because encoder signals are handled in hardware they have dedicated pins.  The exception to this is an MPG encoder.  Those are often slow enough that they can be handled in software so can be connected to any KFLOP inputs.  See also
> >  
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DynoMotion/message/5345
> >  
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DynoMotion/message/5086
> >  
> > Regards
> > TK
> >  
> >
> > From: tmday7
> > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:23 PM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
> >
> >
> >  
> > Tom,
> > Is the JP5 - GPIO #1 / LV Differential Connector on the KFLOP board the only place to wire in a differential encoder?
> > Or can any Gen Purpose LVTTL I/O (5V Tolerant)pin be used for differential encoder channels?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Troy
> >
> > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > > <mrosenfield@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is correct. See http://usdigital.com/products/cables-connectors/cables/10-pin/CA-FC10L-SH-NCI guess I got it backwards - Avago is now Agilent, which used to be HP.
> > > Michael
> > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > >
> > > > So it still works as any other Differential, its just Avago (HP) made a type of "proprietary" pinout connection?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Troy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Rosenfield <mrosenfield@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, that is what it is. Avago used to be HP. You can find the pinouts on the USDigital website, too. They make encoders and line drivers/receivers, and they are available Avago compatible.Michael Rosenfield
> > > >
> > > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > > From: tk@
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> > > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:57:26 -0700
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> > > > > Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:51 AM
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> > > > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Tom,
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> > > > > > > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
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> > > > > > > Or is there more to it than that?
> > > >
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> > > > > > > Thanks,
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5428 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 7/4/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Hi Troy,

It depends.  The normal thing about an index pulse is that the pulse happens every revolution of the encoder.  So if you just move to the index pulse you could still be anywhere in the range of motion depending on where you started.  So some additional means of getting close within one rev of the encoder is needed.  That could just be manual jogging.

Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5430 From: tmday7 Date: 7/4/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Ok. Say i had a a fixed tic mark and a tic mark on my spindle. Then i would jog the rotary axis until i line up tics(by eye), then do a reference at that point. Would the index channel then have a accurate measurement to place reference of axis?

Thanks,
Troy

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Troy,
>
> It depends.  The normal thing about an index pulse is that the pulse happens every revolution of the encoder.  So if you just move to the index pulse you could still be anywhere in the range of motion depending on where you started.  So some additional means of getting close within one rev of the encoder is needed.  That could just be manual jogging.
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: tmday7 <brotroy7@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:19 PM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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>  
> :) Nice, I got one right for a change.
>
> Could the index be used without a switch? Reason is, this encoder would be on a rotary 4th axis, and it would be nice if there was a way to reference the axis, other than lineing up 2 marks.
>
> Thanks again Tom,
> Troy
>
> --- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Troy,
> >  
> > That is all correct.  The A+ and B+ signals would be connected to IO0 and IO1 signals (Pins 7 and 8 on JP7) for encoder input channel 0.
> >  
> > You might also consider adding termination resistors of ~120 ohms between each signal (A+ and B+) to ground.   This will reduce signal ringing and noise that might be picked up on long cables.  Also consider using shielded cables where the shield is connected to KFLOP DC Ground near the KFLOP end of the cable.
> >  
> > The Index signals are not required to be connected.  An Index signal can be useful in improving the accuracy of homing.  The Home routine can be written to move until a switch is connected and then move until the Index pulse is detected.  Because this is all done in a User C Program (software) any spare input can be used.
> >  
> > HTH
> > TK 
> >
> > From: tmday7 <brotroy7@>
> > To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 4:46 AM
> > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
> >
> >
> >  
> > Hmm,ok. So if i have a differential encoder that has following pins, this is how i would use wires with KFLOP?
> >
> > Pin1:Ground (Both pins 1&2 to a digital ground at header JP7)
> > Pin2:Ground
> > Pin3:Index- (Leave off or to an input?)
> > Pin4:Index+ (Leave off or to an input?)
> > Pin5:A- channel (Leave off?)
> > Pin6:A+ channel (To Input on header JP7)
> > Pin7:+5V Power (Both pins 7&8 to +5V pin on JP7)
> > Pin8:+5V Power
> > Pin9:B- channel (Leave Off?)
> > Pin10:B+ channel (To Input on header JP7)
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Troy
> >
> > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Troy,
> > >  
> > > No KFLOP itself does not have any differential encoder inputs (LV (low voltage) differential is something completely different).  Only single ended encoder inputs are available on KFLOP.  I recommended getting differential encoders because differential encoders can be connected to either single ended inputs or differential inputs.  For single ended inputs just connect one of the signals (either + or -) and leave the other unconnected.  Because encoder signals are handled in hardware they have dedicated pins.  The exception to this is an MPG encoder.  Those are often slow enough that they can be handled in software so can be connected to any KFLOP inputs.  See also
> > >  
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DynoMotion/message/5345
> > >  
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DynoMotion/message/5086
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > > TK
> > >  
> > >
> > > From: tmday7
> > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:23 PM
> > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > > Tom,
> > > Is the JP5 - GPIO #1 / LV Differential Connector on the KFLOP board the only place to wire in a differential encoder?
> > > Or can any Gen Purpose LVTTL I/O (5V Tolerant)pin be used for differential encoder channels?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Troy
> > >
> > > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > > > <mrosenfield@> wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > > That is correct. See http://usdigital.com/products/cables-connectors/cables/10-pin/CA-FC10L-SH-NCI guess I got it backwards - Avago is now Agilent, which used to be HP.
> > > > Michael
> > > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
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> > > >
> > > > > So it still works as any other Differential, its just Avago (HP) made a type of "proprietary" pinout connection?
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Troy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Rosenfield <mrosenfield@> wrote:
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> > > > > > Yes, that is what it is. Avago used to be HP. You can find the pinouts on the USDigital website, too. They make encoders and line drivers/receivers, and they are available Avago compatible.Michael Rosenfield
> > > > >
> > > > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: tk@
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:57:26 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> > > > > > I think that may be the pinout and connector type, but I'm not sure.
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> > > > > > TK
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> > > > > > From: tmday7 <brotroy7@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > To: mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:51 AM
> > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [DynoMotion] Re: Absolute or Incremental
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> > > > > > Ok, thanks Tom. Do you know what is a Avago Compatible Differential?
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> > > > > > Troy
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> > > > > > --- In mailto:DynoMotion%40yahoogroups.com, TK <tk@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Incremental with differential outputs.
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> > > > > > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:16 AM, "tmday7" <brotroy7@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Which type of encoder do you prefer for KFLOP? Absolute or Incremental?
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or is there more to it than that?
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> > > > > > > > Thanks,
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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5432 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 7/5/2012
Subject: Re: Absolute or Incremental
Hi Troy,

Yes that should work.

TK